If you’re having trouble getting students to engage in the discussion forum, perhaps it’s time to rethink how you use this tool. “Think of it as a place to foster interaction between the students through a variety of means rather than just asking them questions, although that’s great too,” says Chris Laney, professor of history and geography at Berkshire Community College.
Laney uses the discussion forum extensively in his online courses. Participation counts for 25 to 30 percent of the course grade, so the students feel that they need to participate. Rather than sticking to the question-and-answer format, Laney uses role plays, debates, and WebQuests to engage students in the content and with one another.
While some people may think that the discussion forum is not the appropriate place for these activities, Laney has good reasons for doing it there. He tried using a blog but found it to be “clunky,” and the interaction was limited. “I feel that the discussion forum can be used for almost anything if it’s thought of as an assignment feature rather than a question-and-answer forum. … I’m very low-tech, so I don’t find myself being drawn to a lot of the fancy gadgets every year that are supposed to make online learning better. I think it keeps [the course] manageable if students are not having to learn some new technical thing each time, spending all their time trying to figure out this new technology. Whether it’s role-playing, debate, or a WebQuest, they’re using the same basic technology.”
Role-play
One forum activity, for example, asks students to do some research on a person living in an urban Roman city in the first century CE. Each student creates a character and writes a diary entry or letter recording what he or she did in the course of a day or a series of days. To do this well, students need to research a few things about the professions and classes that would have existed. “The students end up talking back and forth in character in a situation like that,” Laney says. “At no point have I actually asked a question.”
The key to making these role-play assignments work is providing explicit instructions. For each role-play assignment Laney provides about a page-and-a-half set of instructions, including background, lists of reading assignments, and a step-by-step explanation of what they need to do. Laney posts instructions within the discussion forum rather than in the syllabus or the course schedule, because the forum is where the assignment takes place and students are in the forum on a regular basis. Providing instructions in the forum instead of elsewhere also gives him the flexibility to make changes without diverging from the syllabus—the syllabus simply says that the forum continues from week to week and makes no mention of specific assignments.
Debate
Debates also work well in the discussion forum, Laney says. He recently had students debate whether democracy in the Middle East would result in better or worse relations with nations in the region. It’s a pretty straightforward assignment; however, when having students debate it’s important to set clear ground rules to keep things cordial and to avoid simplistic arguments.
The same notion applies to question-and-answer discussions. For example, he once had a discussion that asked students to compare the democracy of fifth-century Athens to the current democratic system of the United States. Which is more democratic? When he checked the forum the next day there were a bunch of messages such as “I hate George Bush” and “Obama’s a socialist.” “Then I [posted], ‘This is way off topic. The main purpose of this assignment was to talk about Athens and learn about the Athenian system,’ but by then it was too late.”
Taking a lesson from this incident, Laney now includes a statement that says, “Note: The main purpose of this is to get a handle on the Athenian system of government, so please avoid judgmental comments about American politicians.” “If I do that up front, I don’t have redirect it a lot. We don’t tend to get off topic,” Laney says.
WebQuest
In weeks when a major assignment is due, Laney gives students a less intense discussion forum assignment. Rather than carrying on a discussion over the usual two-week period, he has students do a simple WebQuest and post their findings without having to respond to each other. For example, he may ask students to post an image, video, or music clip from the Romantic Period of art in the 19th century and write a brief description about why it’s considered an example of Romanticism.
Grading
To keep the discussion forum assignments manageable, Laney asks students to post their messages in a single thread. In a class of 25 people there may be 75 messages in a week, but having all the messages in a single thread makes it relatively easy to grade. “I keep up with it so I have a good sense of who’s been participating actively and who has been sharing good information.”
When a discussion forum activity is over, Laney can click on an individual student’s name and at a glance assign a grade. It typically takes 30 minutes every two weeks to grade a 25-person discussion forum.
Excerpted from Online Classroom, 12.9 (2012): 1,3. © Magna Publications. All Rights Reserved.
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I teach math, often online. Years ago I tried adding a discussion board to my regular classes – a shorter semester and class period left many interesting topics undiscovered, and I thought it would be a good place to work that out. I learned fast what kinds of questions not to ask! As soon as one student worked out the "Why?" of a question, the discussion was over.
In my online classes, I hit upon one of the perfect type of questions for a discussion board in a math course. Taking the most recent topic in class, I'd have each student make up a problem on that topic, and then solve one of the other student's problems. It becomes a sort of musical chairs game, only with just enough chairs for everyone.
I make sure each student takes responsibility for the answer to their problem, so that they can help their "solver" if they get stuck or take a wrong turn. Sometimes there's a mistake in the problem that the solver points out. It leads to some really good interaction! I only intervene when necessary – usually when there's an error that sends both students out of their depth, which is very rare. Otherwise my role is mainly encouragement. It's also easy to grade!
Sure, some people will lowball their classmates, and some try to be too clever for their own good, but overall it's usually a good experience, and the feedback supports that. I don't use it for every weekly forum, but intersperse them with other types of questions so it doesn't get old.
I know this won't work in many other disciplines, but that's a fair tradeoff, since most question types from other disciplines just don't work well in a math class!
~Carl
Carl
This sounds really great, I may try it in my online math class. I find it very difficult to get students to engage in discussions in my online algebra. Most tend to believe discussion boards do not belong in a math class and do as little as possible. I would love to hear any other types of discussions you foster in your class. tmoore@hondros.edu.
Theresa
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So I have to ask, Mr. Laney, how do you possibly grade a 25-person discussion forum in 30 minutes? This is the big issue for me. I teach three online classes/semester – 40 students per class. I spend – minimum – 4-5 hours grading discussion posts. This is with a rubric that is pretty tight. And, still, I often end up with the ubiquitous question, "Why did I get 9 points and not 10?"
Hello, I am posting this on behalf of one of my education classes. I am a student at Arizona State University and am interested in alternative forms of education. I was wondering if any of you have advice on how I could become a more inclusive leader, and how I might become a stronger leader without being overpowering or controlling? Any advice would be helpful. Thanks!